History of Bahasa

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#1
Nenek 8 Januari 2004 jam 2:45am  

:) Halo~~~

I would like to know the history of Bahasa.

When was this language was created.. and so on.
Also how is the writing language? When was created??

:( Thank you for teaching this poor Nenek.!! :angel:

#2
sorcy 8 Januari 2004 jam 8:44am  

hey I'd like to know that too. I think we were taught back in school. but I can't remember a thing though. :)

#3
Azalae 8 Januari 2004 jam 12:01pm  

Uh oh me gives up on this. Too complicated and can't remember all the lessons. :D

Yonny, did you know that we changed grammar and spelling twice already? :D

'jaman dulu' was once written as 'djaman doeloe' lol

#4
Jojon 8 Januari 2004 jam 8:28pm  

Errr...if I'm not mistaken, bahasa was originated from the Malacca Region (Malaysia, West Sumatra, Riau, etc). So if you noticed that Malay and Bahasa are almost similar, since it comes from the same root. Around 700-800 AD (?) there was a big kingdom (Sriwijaya) whose capital in Palembang (sumatra) and whose area covered almost as big as Indonesia now (plus Malaysia). Sriwijaya was the centre of culture also, at that time the malay culture was spreading fast, so does the language.Also people from the Malacca region are usually traders, so they travelled to almost into every parts of Indonesia.

So anyone want to continue my story ? :)

#5
Temujin 9 Januari 2004 jam 4:57am  

This is a quite complex history, because of Indonesia is located in the middle of trade routes between India/Middle East (mostly Arabs) and China or East Asia, and therefore the language has evolved and influenced by many other languages.

But as far as I know, the language of Malay is in the same root as those of Polynesian family, you know those island along the Pacific ocean. After the break up of these island thousands of years ago, they developed into its own distinctive language but since the roots are the same, you can almost see that there are similarities in Bahasa Indonesia, Malay (spoken in Malaysia), Philipino Tagalog, and several other Polynesian islands.

Indonesia itself, as you know consists of approximately 13,677 (or is it 16,377 ?) islands, it's largest island nation in the world, and I believe there are more smaller, insignificant islands. It is known that there are 300 different dialects spoken by the different ethnic groups on the major islands. These people have totally different culture, ethnicity, cuisine, and believes. Within the dialect itself, there are many variations in different areas.

However, it was the Malay language, which is a language based in West Sumatra, Riau, Palembang area on the Sumatra island, also spoken in Malaysia but slightly different (and the entire Mallaca Straits, before Singapore becomes a nation) that was evolved to be the National Language of Indonesia. Kind of like Mandarin becomes the National Language of China. Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian language) is the modern version of Malay. When you compare Malay and Indonesian, it's like comparing the modern American English and Brittish English.

I don't quite remember how the Indonesian chooses Malay to be its national language, I assume Jojon is somewhat correct, there used to be a powerful Kingdom called Sriwidjaya, one of the richest, most influentual kingdom in the Asia in the Palembang region and they adopted Malay (obviously) as their language, and as they expanded and become more prosperious, Malay becomes the common language, especially if you want to trade along the coast.

Most of Classic Indonesian literature are also in Malay, and most of their classic authors are those who were born and raised in Padang/Palembang/Riau area. These people are famous throughout the land for having the natural talent with poetry and literature. Many of their classical novels and poetries have become Indonesian Classics, required for students to learn in elementary/middle schools.

However, as I said earlier, Indonesia prospered with trades with the Indians, Arabs, and the Chinese. Over the thousand of years, there are many words from India and China assimilated into Indonesian language.

When Islam prospered in the Arab land, their traders come to Indonesia to rest on their way to China to trade porcelin, silk, paper, and introduced their religion to Indonesia. Thus, the highly restricted Hinduism and Buddishm influence become weak.

Why ? Because the Moslems encourage equality, which is a big thing. Indonesia was a highly Hinduism/Buddhism influenced country, but its powerful Kingdoms including Sriwidjaya and Majapahit implemented the idea of the caste systems. But the Moslems provide more prosperity and introduce the idea of equality.
With this new waves of Moslem traders, Islam spread inland from around the Malacca straits, as a result, the Buddhist and Hindus got cornered in Java and the majority of Hindus finally moved into an island called BALI.

The Language was heavily influenced with Arabs after this, and the waves of European Colonialization followed.

First it was the Portugese, then the Spanish, and then the Dutch. The Dutch occupied Indonesia for approximately 350 years and the language again added more vocabulary from the Dutch. Indonesia, however, for a brief period in between was also occupied by the British, and some English words played along in Bahasa Indonesia. Then finally, comes the Japanese, the Japanese too added some words into Inonesian language.

For example,

The word Sepatu (means shoes in English) is from a Spanish word, Sepatos. The word bola (means ball in English) is from an English word, ball. The word lihai is from a Chinese word means just exactly the same lihai - witty, smart, talented, able. The word teh (means tea) is from an English word Tea.

I'm not sure when was the official date, Indonesian (Modern Malay) was enacted as the official language ? Anyone want to fill in ?

After the Independence on August 17, 1945, Indonesian have been widely spoken just about everywhere in the archipelago, and many newspapers were published using Bahasa Indonesia. However, the language have been modernized and simplified on many occasions ever since.

For example Jakarta used to be spelled Djakarta

#6 avatar
pepe haliwell 9 Januari 2004 jam 5:15am  

Temujin menulis:
<snip>
The word bola (means ball in English) is from an English word, ball.
<snip>
Actually it is from the Dutch word bal

#7
Temujin 9 Januari 2004 jam 5:18am  

pepe haliwell menulis:
Temujin menulis:
<snip>
The word bola (means ball in English) is from an English word, ball.
<snip>
Actually it is from the Dutch word bal
Well.. the Dutch adopted the word Bal from Old English... , and the English from Latin. I remember in notebook back in Middle School, it is listed as both, adopted from English and Dutch.

#8
blueberry 9 Januari 2004 jam 5:29am  

Temujin menulis:
I'm not sure when was the official date, Indonesian (Modern Malay) was enacted as the official language ? Anyone want to fill in ?
Was it during the "Sumpah Pemuda" event? It was listed as one of the item, right? 1 Nation, 1 Languange...err...what's the third item? *I forget*

#9 avatar
ck_boy 9 Januari 2004 jam 6:36am  

Temujin menulis:
pepe haliwell menulis:
Temujin menulis:
<snip>
The word bola (means ball in English) is from an English word, ball.
<snip>
Actually it is from the Dutch word bal
Well.. the Dutch adopted the word Bal from Old English... , and the English from Latin. I remember in notebook back in Middle School, it is listed as both, adopted from English and Dutch.
as far as i now ball = bulat :D

#10
Azalae 9 Januari 2004 jam 9:00am  

wuaaahhhhhh :clap:

#11
eeyore 9 Januari 2004 jam 9:38am  

blueberry menulis:
Temujin menulis:
I'm not sure when was the official date, Indonesian (Modern Malay) was enacted as the official language ? Anyone want to fill in ?
Was it during the "Sumpah Pemuda" event? It was listed as one of the item, right? 1 Nation, 1 Languange...err...what's the third item? *I forget*
1Nusa, 1Bangsa, 1Bahasa. :? :think:

#12
ToOn99 9 Januari 2004 jam 1:32pm  

Nusa itu artinya apa sih ?

#13
Azalae 9 Januari 2004 jam 1:45pm  

Pulau? Nusa kambangan. :D

#14
Temujin 10 Januari 2004 jam 12:19am  

1 - Nusa ... 1 Nation

1 - Bangsa .... 1 Race

1 - Bahasa .... 1 Language

#15 avatar
ck_boy 10 Januari 2004 jam 5:44am  

Temujin menulis:
1 - Nusa ... 1 Nation

1 - Bangsa .... 1 Race

1 - Bahasa .... 1 Language

jadi kalo diterjemahkan jadi "satu bangsa yang suka mengkompetisikan bahasa" :D

#16
Nenek 15 Januari 2004 jam 5:32am  

hehehe.. I am learning so much!!!

Lex is going back to indo for short family trip. :angel: :angel:
Hope he can find good book about Indo history there.
:angel:

#17
Temujin 16 Januari 2004 jam 10:40pm  

Nenek menulis:
hehehe.. I am learning so much!!!

Lex is going back to indo for short family trip. :angel: :angel:
Hope he can find good book about Indo history there.
:angel:

Hope are you are.

Just keep in mind that Indonesian language is one of the easiest language to learn, especially if you're already familiar with the 26 alphabets.

Reasons :

- 26 alphabets (same as English)

- No tenses (no such things as past, present, future tense)

- Any letter in the alphabat is pronounced exactly as it sounds