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#1
mu99le 7 Mei 2004 jam 2:05pm  

waktu gue cari2 terjemahan novel to liong to di internet, gue nemu Yahoo groups yang khusus membahas wuxia novels...dan ada banyak jilid yang udah mereka translate (meskipun loncat2). However I still dunno whether they allow the translations to be shared elsewhere...gue harep boleh supaya gue bisa share translation To Liong To dr seri 1-10 dan 20-22 (itu yang mrk punya). Jadi kan Pepe (loe bukan yang translate TO Liong To?) bisa loncatin beberapa buku, hehehe....anyway i'll keep you posted. or...if you'd like to be the group member just click here:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tjersil

#2
mu99le 7 Mei 2004 jam 2:13pm  

gak ada ruginya sich jadi member...soalnya banyak file yang bisa di-DL ;)

#3 avatar
pepe haliwell 7 Mei 2004 jam 3:51pm  

halo mu99le,

I appreciate your offer. I don't mind at all if you were to continue, or co-post, the translation. With my workload, it is a possibility that it might take years to finish the story. I don't know if the system allows multiple authors though. Is it possible Azz?

One thing that I am concerned if we were to co-post is the continuity and style of the translation. My post is based on the version that was written by Boe Beng Tjoe. If your post were an original translation or the version that was written by Gan KL, then there may be a discontinuity and confusion. Don't you think?

What say you gang?

#4 avatar
andrea7974 7 Mei 2004 jam 4:36pm  

pepe haliwell menulis:
One thing that I am concerned if we were to co-post is the continuity and style of the translation. My post is based on the version that was written by Boe Beng Tjoe. If your post were an original translation or the version that was written by Gan KL, then there may be a discontinuity and confusion. Don't you think?

What say you gang?

that's my concern also ;)

#5
mu99le 7 Mei 2004 jam 9:21pm  

ah ya...i didn't think of it before. i'm not sure on whose works those translations are based--they are in English and they're not translated by people in that yahoo groups either. Apparently they got those from somewhere else (probably some sites that no longer exist). Anyway, i got the files in the office and i can send them to you so you can have a look. ;)

BTW pepe...may I know where you get your To Liong To novels? I know Gramedia sells them but the price is quite expensive (Rp. 11,800 for such a small book :()

#6
Azalae 7 Mei 2004 jam 10:14pm  

sebaiknya bikin translation set lagi. kasih judul sama ga masalah kok.

ini juga buat reviews. jangan sungkan tulis review yang sama kan pendapat tiap orang bisa berbeda.

oiya masalah ijin kalo mereka bukan penerjemah berarti ga punya hak untuk membatasi. kecuali mereka punya bukti tertulis yang menyatakan diberi ijin exclusive. masalah ijin sih paling bagus tanya penerjemah asli langsung, kalo bisa dihubungi.

setidaknya cantumkan nama penerjemah.

#7
mu99le 8 Mei 2004 jam 6:30pm  

ohh cool...i just found out that a member of that yahoo group is also a member here!! i saw his post in Translation forum...his/her nick is robshots. I hope s/he sees this forum and tell us whether we can post translations from the yahoo group here.

#8
mu99le 11 Mei 2004 jam 10:31am  

eh jadi gimana...boleh gak aku tambahin di bawah translationnya Pepe? ato harus bikin translation baru?

#9
Azalae 11 Mei 2004 jam 4:54pm  

ga bisa 'nambah di bawah translation' yang udah ada. cuma pembuat awal yang bisa nambah chapter/bab.

sebaiknya bikin baru aja :)

gpp kok biar sama cerita kan beda terjemahan. bisa juga mulai dari tengah ato awal.

#10 avatar
pepe haliwell 12 Mei 2004 jam 1:06am  

mu99le menulis:
BTW pepe...may I know where you get your To Liong To novels? I know Gramedia sells them but the price is quite expensive (Rp. 11,800 for such a small book :()
mu99le,

novel saya sudah lama sekali saya punya. Saya tidak tau apa yang sekarang dijual di Indonesia. Solee ... :)

#11
mu99le 12 Mei 2004 jam 9:54am  

ok deh aku tambah baru aja...makasih infonya

#12
mu99le 12 Mei 2004 jam 10:25am  

aku udah post chapter 1-10 to liong to di Translation...sampai ke bagian Thio Sam Hong dan Thio Bu Ki meninggalkan Shaolin (b. inggris tapi). Pepe, loe bisa langsung sambung ceritanya di forum elo sendiri? jadi kan gak perlu ditulis ulang lagi...meringankan kerjaan sekaligus mempercepat cerita, hehe...:p

#13
ToOn99 12 Mei 2004 jam 4:18pm  

Muggle, translatornya cuman chapter 1-2 by athena, ch 3 onwards translated by Meh.
tolong kalo bisa diganti, buat hormatin translatornya.

#14
Azalae 12 Mei 2004 jam 4:46pm  

sementara gua ganti judulnya jadi: 'Kisah Membunuh Naga (Athena and Meh www.spcnet.tv)'.

mau diganti juga gpp. ato tiap chapter ditulis sapa yang terjemahin?

#15 avatar
pepe haliwell 13 Mei 2004 jam 12:32am  

mu99le menulis:
aku udah post chapter 1-10 to liong to di Translation...sampai ke bagian Thio Sam Hong dan Thio Bu Ki meninggalkan Shaolin (b. inggris tapi). Pepe, loe bisa langsung sambung ceritanya di forum elo sendiri? jadi kan gak perlu ditulis ulang lagi...meringankan kerjaan sekaligus mempercepat cerita, hehe...:p
Hmm...

this doesn't feel right to me. I don't know if people like reading a book in which one chapter is written by one translator and continue to the next chapter written by a different translator.

I think it is alright to have 2 different translations of the same book posted here but they should be translated in their entirety. I know my effort is slow in coming, but that's the best I can do under my circumstances.

peep

#16
mu99le 13 Mei 2004 jam 10:23am  

pepe haliwell menulis:
I think it is alright to have 2 different translations of the same book posted here but they should be translated in their entirety.
hmmm......in that case i think i should take down the translation from spcnet as so far chapter 1-10 and 20-22 is all there is :blush:, and no one knows when they will be continued. I will repost them when the translators continue where they left off.

#17
Azalae 13 Mei 2004 jam 12:38pm  

gini aja dikasih holder chapters

1-10 -- chapter biasa pake isi
11-19 -- holder, empty, nanti begitu udah translated diedit taroh sini
20-22 -- chapter with contents lagi

#18
mu99le 13 Mei 2004 jam 1:42pm  

barusan tadi gue post, di spcnet.tv si Meh udah tambah chapter 11..hehe...jd gue terusin dech :)