Aku dapt dari milis, mohon pandangannya! Aku posting disini tdak ada maksud SARA, hanya sebagai bahan tukar pikiran aja. Mohon lepaskan segala atribut SARAmu dan gunakan rasiomu untuk masukan kita aja.

ucho cahyono <zero_ucho@yahoo.com> wrote:

To: Padepokan
From: ucho cahyono
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2005 20:30:04 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [lightuponlight] wali songo itu cino !

Entah kenapa banyak sekali sdr kita umat muslim
merasa gerah, apabila mendengar bahwa delapan
dari sunan walisongo itu adalah orang tionghoa,
padahal Nabi Muhammad Saw sendiri pernah
bersabda "Tuntutlah Ilmu walau sampai Negri China"
( Al Hadis ), nah pada saat itu orang Tionghoa nya
sendirilah yang datang keindonesia, sehingga
mereka tidak perlu repot2 harus pergi belajar
ketiongkok untuk menuntut ilmu disana.
Prof Slamet Mulyana pernah berusaha untuk
mengungkapkan hal tersebut dlm
bukunya "Runtuhnya Kerajaan Hindu-jawa dan timbulnya
Negara-negara Islam di
Nusantara", tetapi pada th 1968 dilarang beredar,
karena masalah ini sangat peka sekali
dan mereka menilai menyangkut masalah sara
kenapa demikian ?
Bayangkan saja yang mendirikan kerajaan Islam pertama
dijawa adalah orang Tionghoa, bahkan sultannya yang pertama
adalah orang Tionghoa: Chen Jinwen alias Raden Patah alias
Panembahan Tan Jin Bun/Arya (cu-cu).
Walisongo atau Walisanga yang berarti sembilan (songo)
wali, tetapi ada juga yang berpendapat bahwa perkataan songo
ini berasal dari kata "tsana" yang berarti mulia dlm bahasa Arab
sedangkan pendapat lainnya mengatakan bahwa kata tersebut
berasal dari kata "Sana" dlm bahasa jawa berarti "Tempat".
Para Wali tsb mendapat gelar Sunan, yg berarti
guru agama atau ustadz,
namun perkataan sunan itu sebenarnya diambil dari
perkataan " Suhu/saihu" yg berarti
guru dlm bhs dialek hokkian, sebab para wali
itu adalah guru-guru.
Pesantren Hanafiah, dari mazhab (sekte) hanafi.
"su" singkatan dari kata "suhu" dan "Nan" berarti selatan
sebab para penganut sekte Hanafi ini
berasal dari Tiongkok.
Perlu diketahui bahwa sebutan "Kyai" yg kenal
sekarang ini sebagai sebutan guru agama Islam
setidak tidaknya hingga jaman pendudukan
Jepang masih digunakan untuk panggilan bagi
seorang lelaki Tionghoa totok,
seperti panggilan "Encek".
Walisongo ini didirikan oleh sunan Ampel pd th.
1474. Yang terdiri dari 9 Wali yaitu :
Sunan Ampel alias Bong Swie Ho
Sunan Drajad alias Bong Tak Keng
Sunan Bonang alias Bong Tak Ang
Sunan Kalijaga alias Gan Si Cang
Sunan Gunung Jati Alias Du Anbo-Toh A Bo
Sunan Kudus alias zha Dexu-Ja Tik Su
Sunan Giri adalah cucunya Bong Swie HO
Sunan Muria
Maulana Malik Ibrahim alias Chen Yinghua/Tan Eng Hoat.
Suana Ampel (Bong Swie Ho) alias Raden Rahmat lahir
pada th 1401 di champa (kamboja), ia tiba dijawa pada
th 1479
ia mendirikan Mesjid Demak. Ia juga perencana kerajaan
Islam pertama dijawa yang beribu kota diBintaro Demak
dengan mengangkat Raden Patah alias chen
Jinwen-Tan Jin Bun sebagai sultan yang pertama,
ia itu putranya dari Cek Kopo di Palembang.
Orang portugis menyebut Raden Patah "Pate Rodin sr".
sebagai "Persona degrade syso" (orang yg sangat bijaksana) atau
"cavaleiro" (bangsawan yg mulia), walaupun demikian orang belanda
tidak percaya, moso sih ?
sultan pertama dijawa adalah orang tionghoa.
Oleh sebab itulah residen poortman 1928 mendapat
tugas dari pemerintah belanda untuk menyelidikinya;
apakah Raden Patah itu benar-benar orang Tionghoa tulen.
Poortman diperintahkan untuk menggeledah kelentang
Sam Po Kong dan menyita
naskah berbahasa Tionghoa, dimana sebagian sudah
berusian 400 tahun sebanyak tiga cikar/pedati.
Arsip poortman ini dikutip oleh parlindungan yg menulis
Buku yg kontrovelsial tuanku Rao, dan Slamet Mulyana
juga banyak menyitir dari buku ini.
Pernyataan Raden Patah adalah seorang Tionghoa ini
tercantum dalam serat Kanda Raden Patah bergelar
Panembahan Jimbun, dan dlm babat tanah jawi
disebut sebagai senopati Jimbun.
Kata Jimbun (Jinwen) dalam dialek hokkian
berarti "orang kuat".
Cucunya dari Raden Patah Sunan Prawata atau
Chen Muming/Tan Muk Ming adalah
Sultan terakhir dari kerajaan demak, berambisi
untuk mengislamkan seluruh jawa, sehingga
apabila ia berhasil maka ia bisa menjadi "Segundo turco"
(seorang sultan turki ke II ) setanding sultan turki
suleiman I dengan kemegahannya.
SUMBER :
D. A. Rinkes "De heiligen van java"
Jan Edel "Hikajat Hasanoeddin"
B. J. O. Schrieke, 1916, Het Boek Van Bonang
Utrecht : Den Boer
G. W. J. Drewes, 1969 the admonitions of Seh Bari :
a 16th century Javanese
Muslim text attributed to the Saint of Bonang,
The Haque: Martinus Nijhoff
De Graaf and Pigeaud "De eerste Moslimse
Vorstendommen op java" - "Islamic
states in java 1500 - 1700"
Amen Budiman "Masyarakat Islam Tionghoa di
Indonesia"
Prof. Slamet Mulyana "Runtuhnya kerajaan Hindu-Jawa
dan timbulnya Negara-negara Islam di Nusantara.

who cares

terlepas benar atau tidaknya....
gw sbg orang tionghoa sangat bangga leluhur kita banyak yang sukses.

bravo.....

umm ada lagi yang bakalan bikin lebih geger. penduduk "asli" indo sebenarnya kawin campur aborigin dan chinese ato india ribuan taon yang lalu. dulu kan banyak perdagangan antar negara.

Aku tidak akan terkejut kalau itu benar

Sebenarnya dari tradisi Jawa pun mereka percaya bahwa Sunan Gunung Jati itu Chinese. Kalau yg delapan lainnya sih dipercayai sbg turunan Arab, dll.

yang pasti, Cheng Ho (Sam Po Kong) itu selain misi diplomatiknya, membawa juga banyak budak dan pedagang yg mengikuti dia dr China kemudian tinggal di Jawa. Mereka inilah yang menjadi pedagang dan pengajar agama-agama Islam mula-mula di Jawa.

kabarnya gus dur juga ada turunan chinese-nya. engga tau benar ato engga?

tul..namanya wong phi kun
j/k

imanto menulis:
kabarnya gus dur juga ada turunan chinese-nya. engga tau benar ato engga?

Terlepas dari benar/tidaknya teori2 diatas, peduli amat, emangnya apa pengaruhnya kalo GusDur itu turunan chinese ato bukan ? Kan sekarang semua sama sama warga negara indonesia

eh bener koq gusdur itu chinese..
ada di bukunya silsilah keluarga gan peng.. ada potonya segala.. apparently dia bukan termasuk dalam line keluarga gan peng, tapi line yg sejajar.. jadi masi keluarga gan tapi bukan gan peng.. abegituu..

untungnya gus dur pernah jadi presiden kalo ga mana ada tahun baru imlek diperingati sebagai hari libur, mana ada orang liat barongsay dimana2, mana ada ikatan koko cici (mirip abang none jkt)..semua bisa ada karena gus dur bos...so kita mesti terima kasih ama beliau setidak2nya orang chinese di indo masi dihargai ga makin diinjek2...karena simpati ini gue becandanya bukan bilang wong pi cek takut kualat..maaf mbah dur....

dan gus dur emang chinese koq begitu juga ama wali songo, sempet dibahas di kompas malah..yang langganan kompas pasti pernah baca, sodara gw juga koleksi artikelnya koq

elo orang kagak ada kerjaan yah kok menghina Gus Dur banget sih

Tolong deh hargai Gus Dur. kalau tidak ada dia, orang yang beribadat di Klenteng tidak akan diakui di INdonesia. Kalau tidak ada Gus DUr..tidak akan ada libur Imlek.
Dan juga kontribusi Gus Dur utk meredakan pertikaian beragama harus diakui! Dia sangat menghargai agama-agama lain!!!

Masih banyak orang yg lebih jelek dan perlu dihina...kenapa mesti sangkut-pautin Gus Dur????

apa kita mau jadi orang Chinese INdonesia yang tidak tahu terimakasih??

damn!!!!!! :starwar:

tolong baca baik2 sebelum posting sambil marah2...

ga ada yg marah2 koq ndy

take it easy

sabar2, orang indonesia sebenarnya chinese semua, buktinya nenek moyang kita berasal dari yunnan yg notabene bagain wilayah China

Shalom Andy

Slightly OT. Here's a transcript of Yenni Wahid's interview with Wall Street Journal
A remarkable daughter from a peace loving father.

Daughter of Islam
An eloquent (and elegant) foe of Muslim fundamentalists.

BY NANCY DE WOLF SMITH
Saturday, February 25, 2006 12:01 a.m. EST

WASHINGTON--Yenny Wahid has a smile that could melt a Hershey bar at 100 yards. Her sunny disposition is all the more remarkable because Ms. Wahid is on what may be the world's most difficult mission right now: She's a prominent Muslim (and a woman at that) who speaks out against terror and the hijacking of her religion by ideologues who twist it to their own political ends.

After 9/11, many Americans assume that the radical Islamic agenda is to destroy the U.S. The reality is that attacks on Western targets are designed to function as brutal propaganda coups that will attract recruits to the cause of violent revolution. The main goal of ideologues like Osama bin Laden is to topple the governments of Muslim countries, including, most famously, the Wahabi royal regime of Saudi Arabia. But the real strategic plum, Ms. Wahid says, would be her native Indonesia and its 220 million citizens--with the largest Muslim population on earth.

"We are the ultimate target," she told me in Washington during a trip to the U.S. earlier this month. "The real battle for the hearts and minds of Muslims is happening in Indonesia, not anywhere else. And that's why the world should focus on Indonesia and help."

Think of it as a potential domino whose fall would be felt far beyond Asia. "It's big enough to destabilize the region," Ms. Wahid notes. But "imagine if Indonesia became a hotbed for terrorism, or a source for people to get martyrs from. We've got enough people to provide an army of terrorists if we're not careful."

At present, Ms. Wahid calls that a "worst-case, doomsday scenario," and she is probably correct, given Indonesia's history of moderate, syncretic Islam, with elements from the region's Hindu and Buddhist past. While there have been demonstrations there over the Danish cartoons that lampooned the prophet Muhammad, they have generally involved only few hundred people. By contrast, Ms. Wahid points out, a December rally she helped organize under the banner of "Islam for Peace" attracted some 12,000 marchers.

At the head of that crowd, riding in a wheelchair alongside Ms. Wahid, was her father, Abdurrahman Wahid, the respected and beloved Islamic scholar who headed Indonesia's largest Muslim cultural organization, Nahdlatul Ulama (NU), before becoming the first president of newly democratic Indonesia from 1999 to 2001. In a seminal article for this newspaper--"Right Islam vs. Wrong Islam"--Mr. Wahid wrote on Dec. 30 that "a terrible danger threatens humanity" in the form of "an extreme and perverse ideology" that grossly distorts the true meaning of the religion. He called on fellow Muslims to end the "complicity of silence" about terrorism and other acts of intolerance which characterize the radicals' behavior.

At 31, Yenny Wahid--her real name is Zannuba--is trying to follow her father's example and defend the values their faith teaches. Educated in Indonesia, she got a Master's degree in public administration from Harvard's Kennedy School of Government in 2002. Her ease in Western surroundings is apparent not merely from the snappy cream-colored pantsuit she was wearing when we met but also from her elegantly accented English.

She is active in the NU's political wing, the National Awakening Party, and an adviser to Indonesian President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono. The job most dear to her heart, however, is running the Wahid Foundation--named after her father--which works to promote, in the words of its Web site, "democratic reform, religious pluralism, multiculturalism and tolerance amongst Muslims" and reflects "a universal Islam [that] desires justice and prosperity for all."

The key word may be prosperity. Indonesia, which was on its way to Asian Tigerhood until the currency crisis of 1997-98, has not recovered from the economic meltdown that coincided with the fall of the Suharto dictatorship. The country is a democracy now, but a struggling one to which few investors have returned. It also has a free press, among the friskiest in Asia. Yet the new openness has also paved the way for vocal opponents of Indonesia's traditional secular approach to government--voices previously suppressed--and they are gaining ground.

It is still politically incorrect to call for an Islamic state; and the mainstream press, along with the vast majority of Indonesians, vigorously supports efforts to fight and arrest terrorists such as the ones who perpetrated the Bali and Marriott hotel bombings of 2002 and 2003. Even so, Ms. Wahid says, the fear of being labeled un-Islamic has become intimidating to many moderate political candidates. Radicals who want to install an Islamic regime--those who dream of violence while many ordinary religious conservatives still do not--also are operating in an economic milieu not unlike the one communists exploited in poor countries a generation ago.

Poverty and a lack of education make millions of Indonesians desperate, and easy, targets, Ms. Wahid says. "After the fall of Suharto, people expected democracy would solve all their problems. But of course it takes a long time for things to fall into their right places, and people are not patient. They want a quick answer. So there is this sense of democracy-fatigue in Indonesia. And my fear is if people are willing to entertain the idea of Islam, and an Islamic state, as an alternative solution to governing, because they are so frustrated by the level of corruption . . . we'd be in big trouble."

Ms. Wahid is not imagining things. She points to other examples: "This is exactly the issue that just happened in Palestine. Because Hamas managed to portray themselves as the clean party. We do have parties like that as well [in Indonesia], like Hamas."

Well-financed radicals have already infiltrated at least some of Indonesia's traditional religious boarding schools, or pesantren. For poor rural families especially, these schools--called madrassas in other Muslim countries--are the only way to see that their sons get decent food and clothing. Yet even the majority of pesantren that teach a moderate form of Islam turn out young clerics who find it difficult to make a living in the outside world. This is one reason, Ms. Wahid believes, that Indonesia's mosques have become a potent trouble zone.

"The market for these preachers is quite limited, and you get to be the top preacher by being the preacher with a sexy message. A sexy message can be very inflammatory: 'Christians are the ones that created all these problems for you guys--kill them!' Friday prayer is an obligation for men, so it has become a very effective medium to propagandize with preachings that are just very, very hateful toward non-Muslims."

Like her famous father and other influential clerics in Indonesia, Ms. Wahid is trying to hold the line against this trend. Their task, as she sees it, is to remind Indonesians of the true teachings of Islam and its sacred texts. "One thing for sure is that [radicals] have a very distorted view of what religion should be," she says. "Killing people meaning glory? It's lunacy. We do discuss these things, we hold conferences, for instance on the word 'jihad' and how it's been used and abused throughout history. The prophet Muhammad said the greatest jihad is against yourself, how to make yourself a better person. It's not . . . running to kill people."

For a true definition of martyrdom, she points to the sacrifice of Riyanto, a young man dispatched with other members of the Nahdlatul Ulama youth militia during Christmas several years ago to guard churches threatened with attacks. When he discovered a bomb outside a church, he tried to throw it out of the way of the crowds and was killed when it blew up. Ms. Wahid and others mark the anniversary of his death every year. "We always tell this message: This is the real case of martyrdom. That's the way to defend religion, not by killing others but by defending others' rights to practice their religion."

As uplifting as her story is, Ms. Wahid cannot speak to Indonesians with the same authority as her father, whose power to influence public opinion derives in part from his credentials as an Islamic scholar. However, Abdurrahman Wahid is 65, blind and frail. The NU organization where he remains a towering figure may have 40 million members, but there are power struggles under way inside the group, and no guarantee that its future leaders will be as wise and outspoken as he has been.

Ms. Wahid is doing what she can to help a new generation follow in her father's footsteps, through the Wahid Foundation. It involves "trying to . . . identify these young leaders, young clerics with same-minded beliefs, and connect them with one another and provide them with something, a house, so that they can come out and speak. An army of able, dedicated young men who can talk in a unified message of tolerant and peaceful Islam."

That's an ambitious project, and Ms. Wahid says Indonesia cannot prepare for the future without help. It needs foreign investors "willing to take the risk," and more contact with the West on every level--including contact as rudimentary as instruction in English that will enable people to pull themselves out of poverty. The Wahid Foundation, for instance, has a program that tries to arrange micro-loans in rural communities.

She's not surprised when I point out that calling for foreign investment in a country with Indonesia's financial reputation is a tall order. "This is a difficult period for us," she admits, "but this is a win-win situation for all. We have all these resources, we have a population of 220 million, a big market. As for rule of law . . . we're trying to simplify the bureaucracy, the red tape and there have been many corruption cases brought to court. The wheels of justice are starting."

Given the threat posed by Islamic fundamentalism, ignoring Indonesia could quickly become a lose-lose situation. If for no other reason, she says, "the world has an interest in making Indonesia a stable country politically and economically so that people do not entertain this idea that an Islamic state is a solution to their problems. When people are hungry, when people are poor, they can do drastic things."

One could argue that by openly resisting the ideology of Islamic extremists, Ms. Wahid herself is taking a drastic step, albeit one born of courage, not desperation. When I asked her where she got the strength to speak the truth at a time when many prefer to remain silent, she beamed and said: "This is the real thing that defines people of faith. I have faith in God. That's enough for my father, and enough for myself."

wah sorry ndy kalo nyinggung elo...
Peace aja deh...

*rangkul pram* dah ga usah pusingin emang elo yang diomelin..bisa jadi gue..ngerokok aja yuk

*jongkok sambil bengong* liatin pram ama heri rangkul2an n pelok2an....
Ternyata mereka ini .... sudah segitu jauh hubungan mereka ....

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