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Jojon
20 Desember 2003 jam 8:41pm
 
Gue kopi paste ajah dari email yg gue dapet hari ini ARTI MEMILIKI.......... Pacaran itu suatu hal yang mengesankan dan 'harus dipertahankan' jika Seorang pecinta yang terbaik adalah sahabat yang terhebat. Jika kamu Jangan pernah takut untuk jatuh cinta.... mungkin akan begitu Cinta bukan sekedar perasaan, tapi sebuah komitmen....Perasaan bisa Cinta tak harus berakhir bahagia.....karena cinta tidak harus Cinta sejati mendengar apa yang tidak dikatakan....dan mengerti apa yang Ketika kamu mencintai, jangan mengharapkan apapun sebagai imbalan, Jika kamu mencintai, kamu harus siap untuk menerima penderitaan. Karena Lebih baik kehilangan harga diri dan egomu bersama seseorang yang kamu Jangan mencintai seseorang seperti bunga,karena bunga mati kala musim Cinta mungkin akan meninggalkan hatimu bagaikan kepingan2 kaca, tapi Sehingga kamu akan menjadi utuh kembali...... So.....berjuanglah hingga dapat cinta sejati |
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andrea7974
22 Desember 2003 jam 12:52am
 
Yang tebal adalah komen dari gue Seorang pecinta yang terbaik adalah sahabat yang terhebat. Jika kamu jadi dalam cinta tidak ada yang namanya win-win solution? dan hukum kasih berlaku disini....cintailah sesamamu manusia seperti dirimu sendiri. Dan kita bahkan tidak boleh berharap orang yang kita cintai akan mencintai kita seperti kita mencintainya. (susah yah? Jangan pernah takut untuk jatuh cinta.... mungkin akan begitu memberi lebih baik dari pada menerima. Jadi....cintailah orang yang mau kau cintai tanpa mengharapkan apa-apa! Cinta bukan sekedar perasaan, tapi sebuah komitmen....Perasaan bisa yep. personally I think that commitment is the most important thing in every relationship Cinta sejati mendengar apa yang tidak dikatakan....dan mengerti apa yang karena itulah orang yang jatuh cinta sering tidak rasional...pake hati..gak pake otak sih! Ketika kamu mencintai, jangan mengharapkan apapun sebagai imbalan, I will give you all my love.... Jika kamu mencintai, kamu harus siap untuk menerima penderitaan. Karena tidakkah cinta itu menyakitkan? Kayaknya selama kita tdk memiliki prinsip bahwa lebih baik mencintai dari pada dicintai....kita bisa sengsara dan menderita karena cinta deh! Lebih baik kehilangan harga diri dan egomu bersama seseorang yang kamu maksudnya...kalau aku suka sama seseorang...lebih baik aku mengorbankan sedikit ego untuk mengatakan kalau aku cinta dia dr pd aku memendam perasaan itu? >< duh.... Jangan mencintai seseorang seperti bunga,karena bunga mati kala musim mengingatkan aku akan lagu...'kasihNya seperti sungai...kasihNya seperti sungai... ' Cinta mungkin akan meninggalkan hatimu bagaikan kepingan2 kaca, tapi dicari...seorang yang bisa menambal luka di hatiku! Sehingga kamu akan menjadi utuh kembali...... So.....berjuanglah hingga dapat cinta sejati gimana caranya mas jojon? |
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Jojon
22 Desember 2003 jam 6:42am
 
Gue kan cuman ngepaste doang, jangan ditanya balik dong >< Cuman menurutku true love doesn't exist, adanya cuman di novel sama di sisi idealis tiap orang,tapi pada kenyataannya when people have to choose, mereka pasti lebih pilih ego :alcoholic: |
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eeyore
22 Desember 2003 jam 8:22am
 
yg ga exist tuh: - love at first sight (edit - ta sorcy) well, gue ga percaya aja love will gone, commitment what left. SCARY lah!!!! :yikes: |
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eeyore
22 Desember 2003 jam 8:26am
 
love at first sight: cinta pada pandangan pertama.. ga ada spt kata sorcy adanya infatuated... plantonik: co ama ce temanan baek banget tanpa ada bibit x2 suka dari salah satu pihak. malah ce ama ce (kalo anak ngaco) jg bahaya, close is ok, but not too close please.. personal space buat setiap individual itu perlu. |
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ToOn99
22 Desember 2003 jam 9:08am
 
planktonik relationship ????? apa pula tuh ? |
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sorcy
22 Desember 2003 jam 9:58am
 
eeyore menulis:maksud loe love at first sight? ![]() iya gue juga gak percaya sih adanya juga lust at first sight atau flirt at first sight. Gue belakangan juga 'skeptic' ama yang namanya platonic relationship. Kalo cuman temen2 biasa sih masih bisa, tapi kalo temen deket sih susah deh. emang paling enak temen akrab ama cowok2 gay, sensitip, seru sama bawelnya and romantically not interested in you, jadi gak complicated (walaupun bitchynya kadang2 bisa keterlaluan) ![]() Kalo gue bilang bukan lovenya yang ilang, cuman kadarnya yang berkurang. Kalo dulu 110%, beberapa tahun kemudian didiskon 50% atau 70% |
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ck_boy
23 Desember 2003 jam 6:35am
 
ini quote yg gue dapet dari web, tapi lupa alamatnya Love is the delightful interval between meeting a beautiful girl and discovering that she looks like a haddock |
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Nenek
23 Desember 2003 jam 6:50am
 
Hehe.. I only understood half of what you guys are saying.. >< But to me, Cinta was very vague at first. However, when I am with the person whom I love, I grow up with him. It has ups and downs... but the feeling of making the relationship together is .... undescribable feeling. Before, I only put efforts towards myself, but now I realized it is efforts from both. Yeah, i am truly Nenek. |
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andrea7974
23 Desember 2003 jam 10:33am
 
sorcy menulis:aku percaya sih namanya love at first sight. Soalnya pernah tuh aku ketemu seseorang ...cuman sekali. Aku terkesan banget sama dia. tapi setelah pertama kali aku ketemu dia aku gak pernah ketemu dia lagi sampai setahun kemudian... kemudian ya sudah...ternyata dia lebih baik dari pada yg terlihat dari luarnya ![]() soal cinta platonis...aku juga heran kenapa biasanya cewek dan cowok gak bisa berteman baik. aku rasa bisa...asal dua-duanya emang niatnya temenan gitu.aku punya temen cowok yang bener-bener teman baik...dan kita janji kalau kita akan tetap berteman even kalau kita sudah married dan berkeluarga...krn kita emang berteman...tdk ada embel-embel di belakang gitu |
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pepe haliwell
25 Desember 2003 jam 5:30am
 
As per someone's request, the witches and warlocks are suppose to provide an insight into the subject of LOVE. LOVE, according to the witch's tradition, is something that can either magically appear one day or more oftenly something that appears only after one "get used to" some other being. There is no rule to how often or how long these phenomenon last. The lucky one experience it everyday of one's lifetime. And the even luckier one may find the right potion to the opposite being last one's lifetime. LOVE is a game of chances. The more one plays the luckier one may get. It is a gambling betting one's very own soul for something that "may" give exulting reward. And every good gambler knows that there is always the other side of the coin. It may hurt, and yes it may hurt a lifetime. Yet a good gambler knows that one loosing streak is not the end of the game. LOVE is a highly illogical behavior, irrational spurt of the moment, and a chemical imbalance. Once one is high on this love-o-meter, one may loose sight of one's place in time, situation, and condition. Only time will determine how long this state of mind will last, if at all. Only in retrospect can one find true love and thus happiness. LOVE. Yes it changes everything. It changes how one look at life. It changes how one see one's accomplishment. It changes one's goal in life. But one thing LOVE should never change. It should never change one's very own being. LOVE should never change who one is. Expecting love to change one's being is a time bomb. In the end one can only adjust so much before loosing one's own identity and revert back to one's old self. |
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Fatbrain
18 Januari 2004 jam 6:42am
 
LOVE AND MARRIAGE HAPPINESS LONGEVITY PROPENSITY TO CHANGE |
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justice_121
30 Januari 2004 jam 1:37am
 
menurut justice : cinta adalah kekuatan terbesar sekaligus kelemahan terbesar cinta dan benci tipis batasnya |
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alicia
2 Februari 2004 jam 7:57am
 
wah banyak bener2 ide2nya.. so.. Andrea.. udah terjawab belon question mu about loves changes everything?? |
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justice_121
2 Februari 2004 jam 1:06pm
 
ada lagi temenku pernah bilang : tanyakan pada dunia apa itu cinta hingga orang tak bisa belajar karenanya |
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eeyore
3 Februari 2004 jam 5:59am
 
Very nice article and very common sense.. ---------------- I have never met a man who didn't want to be loved. But I have seldom met a man who didn't fear marriage. Something about the closure seems constricting, not enabling. Marriage seems easier to understand for what it cuts out of our lives than for what it When I was younger this fear immobilized me. I did not want to make a mistake. I saw my friends get married for reasons of social acceptability, or sexual fever, or just because they thought it was the logical thing to do. Then I watched, as they and their partners became embittered and petty in their dealings with each other. I looked at older couples and saw, at best, mutual toleration of each other. I imagined a lifetime of loveless nights and bickering days and could not imagine subjecting myself or someone else to such a fate. And yet, on rare occasions, I would see old couples who somehow seemed to glow in each other's presence. They seemed really in love, not just dependent upon each other and tolerant of each other's foibles. It was an astounding sight, and it seemed impossible. How, I asked myself, can they have survived so many years of sameness, so much irritation at the others habits? What keeps love alive in them, when most of us seem unable to even stay together, much less love each other? The central secret seems to be in choosing well. There is something to the claim of fundamental compatibility. Good people can create a bad relationship, even though they both dearly want the relationship to succeed. It is important to find someone with whom you can create a good relationship from the outset. Unfortunately, it is hard to see clearly in the early stages. Sexual hunger draws you to each other and colors the way you see yourselves together. It blinds you to the thousands of little things by which relationships eventually survive or fail. You need to find a way to see beyond this initial overwhelming sexual fascination. Some people choose to involve themselves sexually and ride out the most heated period of sexual attraction in order to see what is on the other side. This can work, but it can also leave a trail of wounded hearts. Others deny the sexual side altogether in an attempt to get to know each other apart from their sexuality. But they cannot see clearly, because the presence of unfulfilled sexual desire looms so large that it keeps them from having any normal perception of what life would be like together. The truly lucky people are the ones who manage to become long-time friends before they realize they are attracted to each other. They get to know each other's laughs, passions, sadness, and fears. They see each other at their worst and at their best. They share time together before they get swept up into the entangling intimacy of their sexuality. This is the ideal, but not often possible. If you fall under the spell of your sexual attraction immediately, you need to look beyond it for other keys to compatibility. One of these is laughter. Laughter tells you how much you will enjoy each others company over the long term. If your laughter together is good and healthy, and not at the expense of others, then you have a healthy relationship to the world. Laughter is the child of surprise. If you can make each other laugh, you can always surprise each other. And if you can always surprise each other, you can always keep the world around you new. Beware of a relationship in which there is no laughter. Even the most intimate relationships based only on seriousness have a tendency to turn sour. Over time, sharing a common serious viewpoint on the world tends to turn you against those who do not share the same viewpoint, and your relationship can become based on being critical together. After laughter, look for a partner who deals with the world in a way you respect. When two people first get together, they tend to see their relationship as existing only in the space between the two of them. They find each other endlessly fascinating, and the overwhelming power of the emotions they are sharing obscures the outside world. As the relationship ages and grows, the outside world becomes important again. If your partner treats people or circumstances in a way you can't accept, you will inevitably come to grief. Look at the way she cares for others and deals with the daily affairs of life. If that makes you love her more, your love will grow. If it does not, be careful. If you do not respect the way you each deal with the world around you, eventually the two of you will not respect each other. Look also at how your partner confronts the mysteries of life. We live on the cusp of poetry and practicality, and the real life of the heart resides in the poetic. If one of you is deeply affected by the mystery of the unseen in life and relationships, while the other is drawn only to the literal and the practical, you must take care that the distance does not become an unbridgeable gap that leaves you each feeling isolated and misunderstood. There are many other keys, but you must find them by yourself. We all have unchangeable parts of our hearts that we will not betray and private commitments to a vision of life that we will not deny. If you fall in love with someone who cannot nourish those inviolable parts of you, or if you cannot nourish them in her, you will find yourselves growing further apart until you live in separate worlds where you share the business of life, but never touch each other where the heart lives and dreams. From there it is only a small leap to the cataloguing of petty hurts and daily failures that leaves so many couples bitter and unsatisfied with their mates. So choose carefully and well. If you do, you will have chosen a partner with whom you can grow, and then the real miracle of marriage can take place in your hearts. I pick my words carefully when I speak of a miracle. But I think it is not too strong a word. There is a miracle in marriage. It is called transformation. Transformation is one of the most common events of nature. The seed becomes the flower. The cocoon becomes the butterfly. Winter becomes spring and love becomes a child. We never question these, because we see them around us every day. To us they are not miracles, though if we did not know them they would be impossible to believe. Marriage is a transformation we choose to make. Our love is planted like a seed, and in time it begins to flower. We cannot know the flower that will blossom, but we can be sure that a bloom will come. If you have chosen carefully and wisely, the bloom will be good. If you have chosen poorly or for the wrong reason, the bloom will be flawed. We are quite willing to accept the reality of negative transformation in a marriage. It was negative transformation that always had me terrified of the bitter marriages that I feared when I was younger. It never occurred to me to question the dark miracle that transformed love into harshness and bitterness. Yet I was unable to accept the possibility that the first heat of love could be transformed into something positive that was actually deeper and more meaningful than the heat of fresh passion. All I could believe in was the power of this passion and the fear that when it cooled I would be left with something lesser and bitter. But there is positive transformation as well. Like negative transformation, it results from a slow accretion of little things. But instead of death by a thousand blows, it is growth by a thousand touches of love. Two histories intermingle. Two separate beings, two separate presences, two separate consciousness come together and share a view of life that passes before them. They remain separate, but they also become one. There is an expansion of awareness, not a closure and a constriction, as I had once feared. This is not to say that there is not tension and there are not traps. Tension and traps are part of every choice of life, from celibate to monogamous to having multiple lovers. Each choice contains within it the lingering doubt that the road not taken somehow more fruitful and exciting, and each becomes dulled to the richness that it alone contains. But only marriage allows life to deepen and expand and be leavened by the knowledge that two have chosen, against all odds, to become one. Those who live together without marriage can know the pleasure of shared company, but there is a specific gravity in the marriage commitment that deepens that experience into something richer and more complex. So do not fear marriage, just as you should not rush into it for the wrong reasons. It is an act of faith and it contains within it the power of transformation. If you believe in your heart that you have found someone with whom you are able to grow, if you have sufficient faith that you can resist the endless attraction of the road not taken and the partner not chosen, if you have the strength of heart to embrace the cycles and seasons that your love will experience, then you may be ready to seek the miracle that marriage offers. If not, then wait. The easy grace of a marriage well made is worth your patience. When the time comes, a thousand flowers will bloom...endlessly. |
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Fatbrain
5 Februari 2004 jam 6:35am
 
Don't shut LOVE out of your life by saying it is impossible to find. The quickest way to receive LOVE is to give; |
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bluenectar
5 Februari 2004 jam 4:52pm
 
CINTA punya KEKEUATAN ANEH dari dulu padahal gue ga suka warna biru cuman demi dia seneng aja gue selalu pake warna biru |
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Fatbrain
11 Februari 2004 jam 8:59am
 
LOVE is the condition in which |
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yinyeksin
11 Februari 2004 jam 10:54am
 
moga2 ini bisa menjawab pertanyaan andy yah Love is Unexplain Telapak tangan anda berkeringat, hati anda deg-degan suara anda nyangkut di dalam tenggorokan anda? Apakah tangan anda tidak dapat berhenti memegang dan menyentuhnya? Apakah anda menginginkannya karena anda tahu dia akan selalu di samping anda? Apakah anda masih bersama dia karena semua orang menginginkannya? Apakah anda cemburu bila dia bicara dengan lelaki/wanita lain ? Apakah anda masih bersamanya karena campuran dari rasa nyeri dan kegembiraan yang tidak dapat digambarkan kata-kata? Apakah anda masih menerima kesalahannya karena hal itu adalah bagian dari kepribadiannya? Apakah anda tertarik pada orang lain, tapi masih bersamanya dengan setia? Apakah hati anda tercabik bila dia sedang sedih? Apakah anda ikut terluka bila dia sedang sakit? Apakah anda selalu ingin menyentuhnya, memeluknya karena anda sayang kepadanya? Apakah matanya melihat hati anda yang sesungguhnya dan menyentuh jiwa anda secara dalam sekali sampai terasa nyeri? Cinta memang merupakan sesuatu yg ABSURD and Unexplain, tapi yg terpenting mencintailah karena itu adalah sesuatu yang dianugerahi oleh TUHAN, terimalah pasangan anda dgn segala kekurangan dan kelebihannya. |