eeyore menulis:
no. tidak bermoral, tidak ada manfaatnya dan hanya merusak kepercayaan satu sama lain. and the main thing is it's against the faith that I believe

well... gue sih gak agree yah bilang sex itu tidak bermanfaat and bisa merusak kepercayaan???? apalagi tidak bermoral.. i think is too strong to use that word... menurutku sex before marriage sih ok2 aja tuh, it is a matter of principe, when you will practice it, after or before marriage, and how/which way u will look at it, if u look at the negative site, then u will think that sex is a bad/immoral/evil, etc thing, but it's not.

this is matter of cultures, and cultures are not wrong. it all goes to the inviduals. you can not judge on something from one side, what i mean is, as long as it takes 2 adult persons to do it, and they know what they are doing, it's their own choices, then is ok as long as not forcing involved.
It might be our cultures to think that sex before marriage is not right, and also the people who impose such thinking in our country to make sex seems ridiculed and put all the bad impacts to women which is unfair, but we must not impose such thing on others and expect them to follow. From my point of view, we are much more immoral than the people who does sex before marriage, and think that that is the immoral thing, because indirectly to force them to follow our way of thinking.

the main key is to educate the person on the sex, the meaning of doing the sex, all the other consequences, and also what sort of precautions to take. better do sex which comes with responsibility.

Of course, if asked me to do it before marriage, then it is a different story, but I didnt do it not because of i think it's immoral or there is any other ill-meaning. lagian dalam kitab gak pernah tuh bilang do sex before marriage is immoral, gue juga kristen and orang yang beragama, lagian kalo orang yang kena perkosa gimana donk? mereka immoral juga? itu udah jadi extremist donk?