@tina:

iya i didn't say his father wasn't selfish, just didn't mention it either

he was, from the fact that he had several wives showed his arrogance. he was selfish indeed. that's how yiping got her selfishness too, i suppose

but he's old, and that was his past. and in one way or another, he was sorry. he didn't know any other way to show it but to give money and gifts. that's his problem. i didn't like that either. but he didn't know, and poor guy he's old. he probably was manipulated (by hsueh) and hence yiping and mother got thrown out. she knew which one was the evil one. yet she hated him so much it crushed my heart every time he tried to get close to her.

don't stop this argument! keep going i like it